I first came to ODR in the summer of 2000. After several months I knew Bill a little. He probably knew me less. Anyway, the following took place which captures the "running side" of Bill and, more or less, the essence of ODR.
Bill posted the route for that week's run and said the total distance was "thirteenish" (miles or Hearnes I don't recall). We ran out Thornell, West Bloomfield, Taylor, eventually worked our way over to Fishers, and made our way back to the Basin. I didn't know how far we went but I knew it was the longest 13 miles I'd ever run! So I retraced the route in my car - 16.7 miles.
Before the following week's run I went up to Bill and said: "I just thought you'd like to know that the route you advertised last week as being thirteen miles was more like seventeen."
He just looked at me, smiled, and said: "Cool!"
Clyde Sumner
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